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Post by Boojum on Nov 13, 2007 10:18:56 GMT
So, Debbifer, considering at first you didn't even tell the truth about being a member of the DoF, why should we believe anything else you have to say?
And what exactly is the difference between a "training school" and a "training" camp?
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Post by debbifer on Nov 13, 2007 10:22:22 GMT
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Post by Boojum on Nov 13, 2007 10:27:49 GMT
A camp implies a permanent, regimented, live-in arrangement. It also, of course, has Nazi overtones which Illgrace was no doubt trying to emphasise. Doesn't posting on a board that describes itself as "Pan-Aryan" have Nazi overtones? And being linked to by someone who describes themselves as an "esoteric National Socialist". That sounds pretty Nazi to me as well.
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Post by debbifer on Nov 13, 2007 10:38:24 GMT
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Post by illgrace on Nov 13, 2007 10:43:23 GMT
Doesn't posting on a board that describes itself as "Pan-Aryan" have Nazi overtones? And being linked to by someone who describes themselves as an "esoteric National Socialist". That sounds pretty Nazi to me as well. One cannot control who links to one's site. Illgrace seems to think there is some sort of 'code' to prevent this, but when asked what it was, she failed to respond, as is typical of her, so one must assume it was simply another example of her debating tactics. Now, for the main question (yet again). Posting on a site does not mean that one agrees with that site. The DoF have also, for example, posted on PNUK. And I am posting on this one, right now. The code is well known. Your not knowing it is not down to me. There are many forums to choose from, why did you choose a pro-Nazi one to advertise your 'training'? Illgrace (P.S. you still haven't answered the other questions put to you)
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Post by Boojum on Nov 13, 2007 10:43:47 GMT
One cannot control who links to one's site. Illgrace seems to think there is some sort of 'code' to prevent this, but when asked what it was, she failed to respond, as is typical of her, so one must assume it was simply another example of her debating tactics. You can do it as a redirect. It's how SomethingAwful deal with bandwidth leechers. (Nobody is to test this out on here. Seriously). And the person in question who runs that site is also one of the main defenders of the DoF on the PAF. And lists his location as Malvern, same as you do. Recruiting on a site does however. And at no point has the DoF representative argued with the characterisation of themselves as fellow travellers on the PAF itself. That is very different from your postings either here or on PNUK.
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Post by illgrace on Nov 13, 2007 10:47:50 GMT
++And the person in question who runs that site is also one of the main defenders of the DoF on the PAF. And lists his location as Malvern, same as you do. ++
Also, the person recruiting uses the same name 'Daughters of Frya', costumes, references to their 'book'. Coincidence?
Illgrace
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Post by debbifer on Nov 13, 2007 10:48:20 GMT
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Post by Boojum on Nov 13, 2007 10:53:50 GMT
As a matter of fact, the DoF *have* come in for criticism on that site. As for recruiting, the DoF have also advertised events on PNUK. This in no way implies that they are endorsed by PNUK, which they clearly aren't. They've come in for criticism for two main things. Firstly, for being a fake group. Secondly, they were accused of being multracialist, but they replied that wasn't the case. And it implies you endorse the board members as possible recruits. That applies both on PNUK and the PAF.
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Post by debbifer on Nov 13, 2007 10:56:48 GMT
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Post by illgrace on Nov 13, 2007 10:59:54 GMT
They've come in for criticism for two main things. Firstly, for being a fake group. Secondly, they were accused of being multracialist, but they replied that wasn't the case. And it implies you endorse the board members as possible recruits. That applies both on PNUK and the PAF. It does *not* imply they endorse all the board members as possible recruits, only those in agreement. Same with PNUK and anywhere else a notice has been placed. The DoF are pacifist and non-violent. Clearly those who disagree with this stance are unsuitable. 'White Supremacist' and 'pro Aryan' groups ARE violent yet you choose to advertise there. So, please answer my earlier question of Why you choose to recruit there knowing these are violent, racist and potentially dangerous groups? There are many, many non-violent places you could have chosen to recruit from.Also, what are these 'misunderstandings' you helped clear up with the Nazi's there of which you spoke earlier? Illgrace
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Post by debbifer on Nov 14, 2007 9:09:33 GMT
I have deleted all my posts from this thread because I've just noticed that the sub-forum it's in is titled "The Opposition: Fascists and racists wanting to defend their groups can go here", and I am neither a fascist or a racist. Sorry about this, it's partially my fault and I should have spotted it earlier. I was replying to posts as they came up in the 10 most recent list, and should have payed more attention to what sub-forum they were in.
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Post by illgrace on Nov 14, 2007 9:15:33 GMT
Couldn't answer the questions, could you? *snarf*. And also, since you were here and posting on this when it already had the title, well. That's a bit of a lame excuse, isn't it? Well, we all have our 'slow' days. It's O.K., records have been kept, none of your 'thoughts' on these matters are gone.
Illgrace
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Post by debbifer on Nov 14, 2007 9:22:12 GMT
Couldn't answer the questions, could you? *snarf*. And also, since you were here and posting on this when it already had the title, well. That's a bit of a lame excuse, isn't it? Well, we all have our 'slow' days. It's O.K., records have been kept, none of your 'thoughts' on these matters are gone. Illgrace Yes, I have already said that it was my own fault for not noticing. Furthermore, my words are recorded above, in people's replies. Hadn't you noticed that?
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Post by illgrace on Nov 14, 2007 9:34:56 GMT
Couldn't answer the questions. Lame, lame, lame.
And yes, it IS your own fault.
Illgrace
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